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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz and the Legacy of Malcolm X

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.811.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel welcome author, activist, and daughter of Malcolm X, Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz, to discuss her father’s autobiography, 60 years after its first publication. Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:23.4

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0:46.3

I don't know if she likes being referred to like that, but Dr. Ilyosha Sabaz joins us today.

0:52.7

She is an author, an academic.

0:56.9

The third daughter of Malcolm X and Betty Shabazz.

1:00.4

She's written several great books growing up X.

1:04.0

She wrote a children's book called Malcolm Little, the boy who grew up to become Malcolm X.

1:09.3

The awakening of Malcolm X, she wrote.

1:12.4

And she's here to talk about the autobiography of Malcolm X, which is celebrating its

1:17.4

40th anniversary this year.

1:19.8

Actually, that says 40th.

1:21.6

Wait a minute.

1:22.3

1965.

1:23.7

That's 60s.

1:26.2

This birthday, you said?

1:28.6

No, the autobiography of Malcolm X was published in October 1965.

1:32.9

So that's the 60th.

1:34.2

But the book is for his birthday.

1:36.3

For his birthday.

1:36.9

The book is for his birthday.

1:38.0

So she's here to talk to us about not only her life, but the tremendous legacy of her family and her father.

1:47.0

Thank you for joining us on Higher Learning, Dr. Chavez.

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