I am so glad you could join us. I'm your host Mo Gaudet. This podcast is nothing more than a conversation between two good friends sharing inspiring life stories and perhaps

some nuggets of wisdom along the way.

This is your invitation to slow down with us.

Welcome to slow more. My guest today is the brilliant Dr. Fred Luskin.

Fred is a friend who is the director of the Stanford University project about forgiveness.

He, among other academic interests, Fred teaches the art of happiness.

He teaches developing emotional intelligence.

One of my favorite topics he teaches is the way that actually really changes your views of some of the most complex topics that we normally try to address as humans.

His books Forgive for good and stress-free for good are bestsellers and definitely de facto standards on the topics of forgiveness and stress.

I think it's a conversation you're going to really enjoy listening to.

I hope you find it as an invite to slow down with us.

Fred, thank you so much for being with us.

I'm a huge fan of your work.

I followed you since we met in the World Happiness Summit in 2019 and even in my personal story I've really benefited from your work on forgiveness.

So thank you for being here.

You're very welcome. Thank you. So how have you been holding up with the lockdowns and Corona and COVID-19 and all of the incredibly disruptive situation we're going through.

I mean personally I miss being able to just connect with people

it feels very peculiar to have that kind of social distance. I have struggled personally

with the loss of travel. You know I do a lot of my businesses flying all over the place so

there's personal loss in that I don't have a fully coherent understanding about whether or not all these

restrictions are necessary or they're even the smartest.

So there's that side of confusion and some loss.

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