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🗓️ 1 August 2022
⏱️ 97 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Uberman Lab podcast where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. |
0:08.7 | I'm Andrew Uberman and I'm a professor of neurobiology and |
0:12.4 | Ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. Today my guest is Dr. Emily Bouchettis. |
0:17.8 | Dr. Bouchettis is a professor of psychology at New York University. Her laboratory studies motivation, |
0:24.0 | goal setting, and tools for successful goal completion. |
0:27.2 | I learned about Dr. Bouchettis's work some years ago because I'm a vision scientist. That is, |
0:33.2 | I study the visual system and I heard about this incredible psychologist at New York University |
0:38.4 | who was studying how vision, that is how we visualize problems, can predict whether or not we will |
0:44.3 | successfully overcome challenges and how we strategize in order to set and meet goals. |
0:50.9 | And in 2020, I learned of Dr. Bouchettis's book, which was written for the general public, |
0:55.9 | entitled, Clear Closer Better, How Successful People See the World. And I read both the hard copy of |
1:01.9 | the book and listened to the audio book. And I absolutely loved the material. As you'll learn |
1:07.4 | directly from Dr. Bouchettis today, how people visualize a problem. That is, whether or not they |
1:13.2 | think of a goal or a problem as residing at the top of a very steep hill or on the top of a |
1:20.1 | shallower hill or whether or not they visualize a goal or a problem as far off in the distance or |
1:26.1 | closer to them in the distance visually in their mind, strongly dictates whether or not they will arrive |
1:33.3 | at the challenge of meeting a goal or overcoming a problem with more energy or less energy. |
1:38.5 | Indeed, it dictates whether or not they can push to immediate milestones or whether or not they will |
1:43.8 | think they have to overcome the entire task all at once. Basically, Dr. Bouchettis's work has |
1:49.8 | discovered that how we visualize a problem or a goal in our mind has everything to do with how |
1:56.8 | we lean into that goal, whether or not we think of it as overwhelming or tractable, whether or not |
2:01.9 | we think that we can overcome that goal and then it will lead to yet more possible rewards and goals |
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