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Dr. Elias Zerhouni Reminds Us Why 'Disease Knows No Politics'

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🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Dr. Elias Zerhouni’s journey began in Algeria, where he taught himself mathematics as bombs fell outside his window. With two suitcases and a few hundred dollars, his family eventually immigrated to the United States. Driven by an unshakable belief in science and service, Zerhouni rose through the ranks of medical research to become director of the National Institutes of Health under President George W. Bush. In his new memoir, “Disease Knows No Politics,” he reflects on his personal journey and the fierce political battles he faced while leading the NIH. He joins us to discuss the vital contributions of immigrants to American innovation and the urgent need to safeguard science from partisanship. Guests: Dr. Elias Zerhouni, former director, National Institute of Health; professor emeritus, Johns Hopkins University Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:08.5

Coming up on forum, Dr. Elias Zerhouni's journey began in Algeria, where he taught himself mathematics as bombs fell outside.

1:16.7

With two suitcases and a few hundred dollars, his family eventually immigrated to the United States.

1:22.3

Zerhouni rose through the ranks of medical research to become director of the National Institutes of Health under

1:28.2

President George W. Bush. In his new memoir, Disease knows no politics. He reflects on his personal

1:34.8

journey and the fierce political battles he faced while leading the NIH. He joins us to

1:40.1

discuss why science must be free from partisanship. That's next after this news.

1:49.6

This is Forum. I'm Leslie McClurg. I'm in today for Mina Kim. We're joined by Dr.

1:55.1

Elias Zerhouni, a radiologist, a scientist, and former director of the National Institutes of Health. He was the first

2:02.3

U.S. science envoy under President Obama as well. And he's founded multiple medical imaging companies.

2:09.0

But before all that, he grew up in colonial Algeria during the country's brutal war for

2:16.0

independence. His new memoir, Disease Knows No Politics, traces his journey from North Africa to the top of the American health care system.

2:26.2

Welcome, Elias.

2:27.8

Thank you for having me, Leslie.

2:29.7

Let's talk a little bit about those early years, your childhood.

2:33.2

You grew up in a predominantly French settler neighborhood of Algeria.

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