Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's weekly podcast on leadership with Scott Miller.

That's me.

I'm your host and interviewer each week.

I'm also the author of a series of books published by Harper Collins based on this podcast.

Now the world's largest weekly leadership podcast.

The books are called Master Mentors.

Volume one and volume two are now out in print, in audio, in digital, and in video books

from lit video where each year I am privileged to write a book about the podcast where I curate

30 of what I think are the most interesting and transformational interviews.

And with the benefit and permission of those attendees on the podcast, those guests, I write

a short story about something they said sometimes on air, sometimes off air that I think

it's a great compendium of what has now become the second volume and a ten volume series.

Look for volume three of Master Mentors releasing in the fall of 2023 on our way to ten

volumes in the series.

Our guest today is the prolific author.

He is the social psychologist at Hope College in Michigan.

His name is Dr. David Myers.

He's written somewhere close to 20 books.

He's not sure if it's 17, 18.

You kind of stop counting after your fifth or sixth, but he is a social psychologist and

has written what is often known as the best-selling book on psychology textbook that has sold

I think close to nine million copies.

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