Dr. David Kilcullen: A Student of Warfare

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🗓️ 16 June 2021

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

David Kilcullen is one of the world’s foremost counterinsurgency experts and is the author of the books The Dragons and the Snakes: How the Rest Learned to Fight the West, The Accidental Guerrilla: Fighting Small Wars in the Midst of a Big One, Out of the Mountains: The Coming Age of the Urban Guerrilla, Blood Year: The Unraveling of Western Counterterrorism, and Counterinsurgency.

David Kilcullen served in the Australian military for more than 20 years before being recruited as the Chief Strategist in the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism for the U.S. State Department. He also served as the Senior Counterinsurgency Advisor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and as an advisor to General David Petraeus.

He was a counterinsurgency adviser to NATO and the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan. As the President and CEO of the research and development firm Cordillera Applications Group, he continues to advise private companies and governments around the globe. On this episode, Jack and David discuss writing, warfare, the realities of counterinsurgency, and more.

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The Dragons and the Snakes

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Blood Year

Out of the Mountains

The Accidental Guerrilla

Rise and Kill First

Counterinsurgency Field Manual

Unrestricted Warfare

Black Moleskin Notebook

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Transcript

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0:00.0	This is the Danger Close Podcast, beyond the books with me, Jack Carr.
0:17.1	Welcome to the Danger Close Podcast, an Ironclad original presented by Six Hour.
0:21.4	My guest today is my friend Dr. David Kylkullin.
0:24.4	David is a former Australian Army officer who managed to get a PhD in political anthropology
0:30.0	along the way.
0:31.2	He was the advisor on counterinsurgency to Connoly Siright to the State Department and
0:36.2	to David Patrice during the surge in Iraq.
0:38.9	Today, he runs a strategic advisory firm and has written five books.
0:45.6	If you've been paying attention, you will notice his influence in each and every one of
0:49.6	my novels.
0:50.6	David Kylkullin, the last one in the devil's hand, is the latest novel, The Dragons and the
0:54.8	Snakes, which I read back in early 2020, really helped lay a lot of that foundation for what
1:00.0	I was writing in the devil's hand.
1:02.8	Without further ado, my friend, Dr. David Kylkullin.
1:08.0	David Kylkullin, thank you so much for jumping on.
1:10.7	I'm so excited to get to talk to you.
1:12.4	You know what?
1:13.4	The secret of this podcast, the why I started it, is so that we could have this conversation
1:17.9	because we haven't talked to each other in so long.
1:20.6	You essentially forced me with all the different little apps and stuff like that that we have
1:26.2	to communicate through when you're traveling all around the world doing your thing.
1:30.0	I had to actually start a podcast so we could catch up.
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