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There's something I haven't told you before.

What's very, very what?

Camilia, season five, Doctor Dante.

A production of campsite media.

Doctor, Doctor, Doctor.

In 1997, when charges were filed by the Central District of California in connection with

Permiterm, Doctor Ronald Dante's lawyer told him that he had two choices.

He could either be arrested or flee the country.

The lawyer told me he said if I don't want to go to prison, I got to go south through

the North, Canada or the other place.

So Dante headed south to the other place and crossed the border into Mexico with a bag

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