Welcome to the Huberman Lab podcast where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life.

I'm Andrew Huberman and I'm a professor of neurobiology and

Ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. Today my guest is Dr. Alia Krum.

Dr. Krum is a tenured professor of psychology at Stanford University and the founder and director of the Stanford Mind and Body Lab.

Her work focuses on mindsets, how what we think and what we believe shapes the way that our physiology, our biology,

reacts to things like what we eat or stress or exercise.

Indeed, as you will soon learn from my discussion with Dr. Krum,

what you believe about the nutritional content of your food

changes the way that food impacts your brain and body to a remarkable degree and the same is true for mindsets about

exercise and stress and even medication.

For instance, recent work from Dr. Krum's laboratory shows that what we believe about the side-effect profiles of different drug treatments or

different behavioral treatments has a profound impact on how quickly those treatments work and the effectiveness of those treatments.

I just want to mention one particular study that just came out from a graduate student in Dr. Krum's laboratory,

Lauren Howe, H-O-W-E,

showed that how kids react to a treatment for peanut allergies can be profoundly shaped by whether or not those kids were educated

about the side effects of the treatment such that if they learned that the side effects were a byproduct of a treatment that would help them and they learned a little bit about why those side effects arose and that the side effects

might even help them in root to overcoming their peanut allergy had an enormous impact on how quickly they move through the treatment and indeed how much they suffered or in this case did not suffer from those side effects.

And that is but one example that you will learn about today as we discuss what mindsets are, the number of different mindsets that exist and

how we can adopt mindsets that make us more adaptive, more effective, allow us to suffer less and to perform better in all aspects of life.

I personally find the work of Dr. Aelia Krum to be among the most important work being done in the fields of biology and psychology and the interface of mind body.

Everything that she's done up until now and published and indeed the work that she continues to do has shaped everything within my daily routines, within my work routines, within my athletic routines.

And we probably shouldn't be surprised by the fact that Dr. Krum works on all these things. She was not only an incredibly accomplished tenured research professor, she's also a clinical psychologist and she was also a division one athlete and a elite gymnast at one period in her life.

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