Artificial Intelligence has been a topic of political conversation for quite some time.

I should know, I partly wrote a book about it.

It's called fully automated luxury communism, though I must say, when I wrote that book

and when it was published, many people were skeptical about the rise of the robots and

how technological change would disrupt the economic status quo.

Sure, they would say, Aaron, this might be coming in the 2040s or 50s or 60s or maybe

one more dead in the 20100s, but this is not a problem for right now here in the 2020s.

Yet, with the development of chat GPT over the last 12 months, people are finally starting

to have that conversation.

Maybe artificial intelligence is far more developed than we realize and with exponential

improvements, perhaps it's getting out of control.

Ian Hogarth is a founder and investor in technology companies.

He wrote a brilliant article in the FT Weekend magazine talking about all of these issues

and how, in fact, we may need political regulation to catch up with technology.

Ian, welcome to DownStream.

Thanks for having me.

It's our pleasure.

We're going to talk about some really big issues which a lot of audience may not be

that acquainted with artificial intelligence, machine learning, et cetera.

Why do you have authority on these topics and why should they listen to you over the

next hour?

I'm not sure I have that much authority.

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