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Douglas London: Spying and the Lost Art of American Intelligence [Rebroadcast]

The Jack Carr Channel

Jack Carr

Society & Culture

4.92.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2022

⏱️ 116 minutes

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Summary

Note: This episode of Danger Close was originally released in October of 2021. 


Douglas London is a retired senior CIA operations officer and the author of the book The Recruiter: Spying and the Lost Art of American Intelligence.  Doug served as a U.S. Marine before joining the Central Intelligence Agency in 1984 where he worked for 34 years – 17 years on either side of 9/11. His job was the clandestine collection of HUMINT: intelligence that comes from people who provide secrets valuable to the United States. By virtue of recruiting spies for an equal number of years on either side of 11 September 2001, Doug offers a unique perspective on the Agency pre and post that seminal date in history.   He served in the Middle East, South and Central Asia, and Africa including three assignments as a chief of station, the president’s senior advisor at post, and chief of base in a conflict zone.   


Assignments at CIA Headquarters included executive positions at the Agency’s Counterterrorism Center, Information Operations Center, and Near East and South Asia Division. He is the recipient of the CIA’s Career Intelligence Medal.   Today, Doug is an Adjunct Associate Professor at Georgetown University’s Center for Security Studies, and a non-resident fellow at the Middle East Institute.   


On this episode of Danger Close, Doug discusses the state of modern intelligence, failures of the intelligence community, a lack of accountability prevalent in the post-9/11 CIA, and a lot more.   


You can follow him on Twitter @douglaslondon5 and you can follow Jack on social platforms @jackcarrusa. 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is The Danger Close Podcast, beyond the books of me, Jack Cawr.

0:18.2

Welcome to The Danger Close Podcast, Marron Cloud original, presented by Navy Federal Credit

0:22.4

Union.

0:23.4

My guest today is Douglas London.

0:25.7

He is the author of the recruiter spying in the lost art of American intelligence.

0:31.4

This is a rebroadcast of a conversation I had with Douglas London on the first season

0:36.0

of The Danger Close Podcast, but it was so interesting that we wanted to rebroadcast it

0:40.0

again.

0:41.0

Doug worked for 34 years in the Central Intelligence Agency in the clandestine service.

0:46.5

As an intelligence community leader, he held several high profile positions, including

0:50.2

CIA Chief of Station.

0:52.6

Before retiring from the CIA, he served across the Middle East, Africa, and South and Central

0:56.9

Asia, and is a subject matter experts on topics, including counterterrorism, weapons of mass

1:01.7

destruction, and Iran.

1:03.8

Today, he serves as an adjunct associate professor at Georgetown University's School of Foreign

1:09.6

Service.

1:10.6

You can follow him on Twitter at Douglas London 5.

1:14.4

Now, without further ado, Douglas London.

1:17.4

So, I wrote a little something I want to start with, and then jump into a few questions

1:24.5

for you.

1:26.5

I think this book is important, not only because it inspires the next generation, but without

1:31.5

books like these, these government institutions that all too often hide behind protecting

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