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Welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show. They say it's a thin line between love and hate, but we're working every day to thicken that line,

or at least make it a double or triple line.

Now here's your line jumping host, Eric Mattaxas.

Hey there, folks. Welcome to the show. I have as my guest today, someone who's been on here many times before. He's that hippie-dippy weatherman, Doug Giles. Doug, welcome back.

Eric, how you doing, Big Dog?

You know what?

I'm confusing you with the hippie-dippy weatherman.

You are the pastor, author, artist, hunter, hero, Doug Giles.

Not the hippie-dippy weatherman.

I'm sorry.

I'm kind of mixed up today.

You, uh, you have a new book out called Lionhearted and as if to underscore the title of your book, Lionhearted, behind you, anybody who watching this on video is already laughing.

Can you please help us understand what we're looking at?

Yeah, so that's a line I took in the Kalahari back in 2015.

We hunted four lions on that trip, Eric.

And that one was interesting because he came to kill us,

and we literally shot him. I wouldn't say a point-blank range, but he was coming in hot and heavy.

It was tooth-fanging claw and probably popped him at about, I don't know, 15 yards as he's coming, you know, full steam ahead.

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