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The Shift with Sam Baker

Dorothy Koomson on how she learnt to be enough

The Shift with Sam Baker

Sam Baker Ltd

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.8525 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is the international bestseller Dorothy Koomson. She started young - she had her first stab at writing a book at 13 - and, like me, worked on Just Seventeen, amongst many other magazines, before actually publishing her first novel at 30. She has now written 16 Sunday Times bestsellers and is the biggest selling Black author of adult fiction in the UK - not bad for a woman whose debut novel was turned down for, amongst other things, having a Black character but not being about “the Black experience”. Her latest, I know what you’ve done, is just out in paperback and has been described as “Desperate Housewives but darker”. It’s also completely stuffed with brilliant parts for midlife women - ITV, I’m looking at you! Dorothy joined me from Brighton to talk about feeling like you’re “enough”, 80s TV crushes, the gynae and thyroid hell that gave her constant hot flushes, facing up to grey pubic hair and why there’s still A LOT of work to do when it comes to telling all women’s stories. Oh and why we need to bring back Golden Girls. I’m here for that! • You can buy all the books mentioned in this podcast at Bookshop.org, including I Know What You've Done by Dorothy Koomson and the book that inspired this podcast, The Shift: how I lost and found myself after 40 - and you can too, by me! • The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is created and hosted by Sam Baker and edited by Emily Sandford. If you enjoyed this podcast, please rate/review/follow as it really does help other people find us. And let me know what you think on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I think of it like a Tamagocchi.

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At the end of all of this...

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We're going to have a little baby.

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1:05.1

Hello and welcome to The Shift, the podcast that aims to tell the no-holds-barred truth about being a woman post-40,

1:11.4

created and hosted by me, journalist and author Sam Baker. My guest today is the international

1:16.4

bestseller, Dorothy Coompson. She started young, she had her first stab at writing a book at 13,

1:22.0

and like me, worked on just 17, amongst many other magazines, before actually publishing her first

1:27.0

novel at 30.

1:28.0

She has now written 16 Sunday Times bestsellers and is the biggest selling black author of

1:32.8

adult fiction in the UK. Not bad for a woman whose debut novel was turned down for, amongst

1:38.0

other things, having a black character, but not being about the black experience. I've never met

1:43.5

another black person who has exactly

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