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This episode details an incident of domestic violence.

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Sachi, I think you and I both share the formative experience of working at various retail jobs. I want to know, have you ever encountered shoplifters or thieves? I've worked at several retail joints. Sarah,

you might remember Jacob. Yep, the cute, casual, but formal women's wear clothing store. It was classy.

Jacob was classy.

Very classy.

Yeah, you were a classy girl if you had a pencil skirt from Jacob, which I had several.

And I wandered away from my section one day and a man walked in and just took a whole table of clothes and I got in so much trouble.

But I still, till this day, was like, did they think me at 21 was going to, like, chase down that guy? Yes. I mean, I worked at so many stores in my teens and 20s, and I got to say, I did not care when people shoplifted because it wasn't my job to monitor them. And I'm not going to risk my life for a store that's going

to get money back from insurance. You know what do you want me to do? Yeah, I didn't care about

the stores that much either, which is maybe why Jacob no longer exists. Yep, that is very true,

sadly. That's my fault. Sorry, everybody. Well, I say this because today we're covering a different kind of scammer.

Doris Payne made a name for herself by turning petty theft into an art form.

She actually might be the most glamorous woman we've ever covered on this show,

and I am just warning you now, you will get Stockholm syndrome.

It's October 2013, and Raju Mehta is standing behind the counter of El Paso Jewelers,

a luxury boutique in Palm Springs.

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