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Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction

Dopey 550: The Anesthesiologist Who Shot Adrenaline and Fentanyl, Dr. Jason Giles, Hitler, Freud, Halsted, Addiction Recovery

Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction

Dave & Chris

Comedy, Health & Fitness, Health & Fitness:mental Health, Mental Health, Alternative Health

4.82.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 159 minutes

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Summary

Dopey Nation Emails and Voicemails! Dopeycon News! Dopeycon themesong challenge! Santa Monica/Culver City; father a quart-a-day gin drinker; mother deeply codependent; father later sober ~35 years but “dry/angry.” Teen: ska/mod (Specials, Selecter, Untouchables, Madness), Vespa rides, alcohol/weed/amphetamines. Berkeley & Free Clinic Chose Berkeley (also accepted to MIT); Berkeley Free Clinic mentorship; lineage to Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic (David Smith; bands funded care). Purpose & “hero’s journey” framing; service as “primary purpose.” Anesthesia / pain medicine Charmed by physiology-in-real-time and the human connection (esp. parents in pediatric cases). Basics: take away pain & anxiety/memory (e.g., fentanyl, Versed); use relaxants; manage airway/complications. Favorite contrast: from tiny trigger-finger release to replacing the aortic arch. Fentanyl descent (1999) Diverted via paper logs; carried 2 mL for a month before first sterile IV use; loved the warm/relief/confidence. Waited ~6 weeks, used again; escalated to “after work only,” leading to daytime withdrawal and concealment (long gown to hide arms/weight/sweat). Experimented separately with other drawer drugs (e.g., propofol, pentothal; hates ketamine → “crumpled cellophane” feel). Sufentanil even more potent but dangerously narrow window. Intervention & recovery Chairman’s page about missing fentanyl; offered help, not punishment; referenced prior resident death. Bathtub cold-turkey detox; called a sober doctor; went to an AA meeting of doctors; felt less alone; kept going; “ultimate challenge is handling success.” Treatment feedback groups taught honest feeling-language and service; newfound congruence. Finished residency (board made it 2 years), married, child, then shift to treatment medicine in Malibu; “fish met water.” Substances & side topics Adrenaline/epinephrine: synthetic now; shooting it feels “weird/anxious.” Hitler: amphetamines + opiates (references Blitzed); late-stage junkie logic/psychosis frame. Halsted: cocaine mapping nerves → heroin maintenance, long IM use with periodic retreats; even “stable” heroin isn’t smooth. Crowley: “infinite supply” idea discussed; brain adapts—no stable bliss. Benzos vs. opiates Opiate withdrawal: nausea/diarrhea/sweats/chills/aches/runny nose/goosebumps unique to opiates. Benzo withdrawal: anxiety/fear, same feeling benzos treat → especially hard; seizures risk (Dave shares lived seizures). Memory / benzos / awareness Benzos disrupt hippocampal consolidation, but recall can still occur (e.g., intraoperative awareness with strong stimuli). Kratom Opiate-like activity; ~1/3 minimal withdrawal, ~1/3 rough as fentanyl, rest in-between (his experience). Often uses Suboxone to transition; prefers to wait/see which group before MOUD. Suboxone vs. abstinence MOUD prevents death/harms; some should stay indefinitely; for most: “cast/training wheels” until life is rebuilt + real recovery connections in place. Fentanyl now Overall OD deaths have ticked down recently from the peak, but fentanyl involvement is sky-high; he says he’s seen fentanyl in other drugs, counterfeit Percocet common; heroin is rare now. Economics: opium supply changes; fentanyl is cheap; heroin cachet remains among some.

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0:00.0

This dopy, dopy podcast is coming in your ear with heroin and candy, sobriety and beer.

0:18.0

Dave and that other guy You know The hot one

0:21.4

Everybody wants to fuck

0:23.2

Just thought I'd throw in a visual

0:26.5

For the listeners

0:27.4

Now you know

0:29.1

Good luck

0:30.9

So pull up a chair

0:33.9

Start the car

0:35.1

Let's get on the road.

0:37.8

Hey, let's go.

0:40.3

The Dope podcast is starting up.

0:44.2

Welcome to the show.

1:02.1

Hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey, it's time for dope.

1:05.6

And I want to sing a song for you.

1:09.9

Damn Chris going to show you a finger too. You'll have some fun now with me and all the gang

1:16.6

Learning from each other

1:18.6

Why we do our thing

1:21.6

Nah, nah, nah, go to hell good time

1:24.6

Yeah

1:26.6

Nah, nah, nah, go to hell good time time Nah, nah Nah

1:28.3

Go to hell good time

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