This week on Dopey! Author, co founder of Oro Recovery, husband of Alexis Haines, longtime super supporter of the show and recovering addict and alcoholic, Evan Haines finally calls in. Evan talks about his new book that he cowrote with Bob Forrest called Can America Recover? Which ponders that very question. We hear all about the origins of Oro, Evan's traumatic and sometime tragic childhood, and his eventual triumph in his recovery and in founding Oro. Then Evan reports on the great AA myth: "was Bill Wilson totally tripping on LSD?", mysticism in 12 step and so much more on a deep dive into the history and ideology within addiction and recovery. Check it out! ***This episode was sponsored by Zencastre! So, if you want to make a podcast without all the hassle we fumbled our way through, check out zencastr.com and be sure to enter the code dopeypodcast (no spaces) or access the link in the notes for a 30% discount on your subscription. More About Dopey: Dopey Podcast is the world’s greatest podcast on drugs, addiction and dumb shit. Chris and I were two IV heroin addicts who loved to talk about all the coke we smoked, snorted and shot, all the pills we ate, smoked, all the weed we smoked and ate, all the booze we consumed and all the consequences we suffered. After making the show for 2 and a half years, Chris tragically relapsed and died from a fentanyl overdose. Dopey continued on, at first to mourn the horrible loss of Chris, but then to continue our mission - which was at its core, to keep addicts and alcoholics company. Whether to laugh at our time in rehab, or cry at the worst missteps we made, Dopey tells the truth about drugs, addiction and recovery. We continually mine the universe for stories rife with debauchery and highlight serious drug taking and alcoholism. We also examine different paths toward addiction recovery. We shine a light on harm reduction and medication assisted treatment. We talk with celebrities and nobodies and stockpile stories to be the greatest one stop shop podcast on all things drugs, addiction, recovery and comedy!