Donna Adelson, no longer in limbo, the 75-year-old matriarch convicted in the murder-for-hire case against Dan Markell.

Well, she's now at her forever home, known as Homestead Correctional.

It's even got the word home in there.

It is a level four women's state prison on the edge of the Everglades.

Watch out for the alligators.

It's a place running overcapacity, housing close custody inmates,

and known for some of the toughest conditions in the entire state.

Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, St.S Nation? Welcome to Surviving and Survivor. This is the show that brings you the very best guests in all of true crime. It is a global phenomenon. We've got people from all corners of the earth, from Staten Island, to Somalia and everywhere in between. So what does Donna's new reality look like inside this facility that's actually built for 668 beds but is currently housing more than 740 women overcrowding seems to be a problem?

And what happens when a 70-something high-profile inmate suddenly walks into that world and how fast does a prison population learn her name or

do they already know her name Donna Sue Aedelson here to discuss all this and coming back

for a second time as a best guest and we're happy to have her is Alex Lanias.

She is a former inmate and she is the author under the name Lex Lanius of

Breathe Broken Soul, Breathe Broken Soul and has the YouTube channel Words of This

Life, Words of This Life, Love Both Those Titles, Amazing

Titles. And second, but not least, for sure. We've got Dallas, Braza, Prison Consultant,

a National Advocate for the incarcerated and author or speaker, the founder of Prison 101 Consulting,

five books, New York Times bestsellers,

her most recent book, author of The Prison We Made, The Prison We Made, and Author of Prison of Prison 101,

not to mention three other books that we can discuss once we get into it.

So Dallas, welcome to you, first time best guest.

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