This is Seth Silver's.

You're listening to Pantsuot-Holland.

This is Beth Silver's.

You're listening to Pants-Soupeolitics, where we take a different approach to the news. We're so glad you're here with us today. We're going to talk about institutions today.

We're going to talk about the Justice Department in particular.

We're going to talk about their upcoming trials with regards to Donald Trump.

We're talking about Donald Trump's calendar in a big way.

He's got a lot going on guys.

We want to walk through that a little bit.

But we're also going to talk about the Justice Department's critical incident report involving

the tragic shooting at Rob Elementary School in Yewaldi, Texas, and how institutions are dealing

with difficult things in American life.

And then we're going to talk about meetings. We're going to talk

gatherings and parties and Beth would like us all to just gather around. She has a new

approach. She'd like us all to try on.

I would like us to take a different approach to scheduling.

Different approach to scheduling. That's right.

That's where I am.

In the first part of our conversation today we are talking about the former president and his legal woes.

And we are trying to take a very big picture approach to that discussion, to think about that

from the perspective of voters. I mention in this conversation that I am a nerd and I find all of the legal maneuvering

around that pretty fascinating. And so if you would like to join me to get your arms even more

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