Donald Trump is Convicted! Plus, Who is Winning The Senate?

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🗓️ 30 May 2024

⏱️ 77 minutes

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This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the U.S. Senate seats that might turn from blue to red in 2024; The Fall of Roe with The New York Times’s Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lerer; and the rise of Lauren Boebert with City Cast Denver’s Bree Davies and Paul Karolyi. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: The Cook Political Report with Amy Walter: 2024 CPR Senate Race Ratings Jonathan Weisman for The New York Times: 10 Senate Races to Watch in 2024 Ben Kamisar for NBC News: Rich people are spending more than ever to run for Congress. A big test is coming in Maryland. Nate Silver for 538: Are The Democrats Screwed In The Senate After 2024? The Fall of Roe: The Rise of a New America by Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lerer and The New York Times Magazine: The Untold Story of the Network That Took Down Roe v. Wade Ian Ward for Politico: The Group Behind Dobbs Does Not Want to Talk About What Comes Next Bree Davies and Paul Karolyi for City Cast Denver: Lauren Boebert Can’t Lose CBS Colorado: Beto O’Rourke Talks Gun Violence At Aurora Campaign Stop Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: Law & Justice Journalism Project: 2024 Fellowship John: Katie Razzall, Darin Graham, and Larissa Kennelly for BBC News: FBI investigating missing ancient treasures from British Museum and Rebecca Mead for The New Yorker: The British Museum’s Blockbuster Scandals David: Meilan Solly for Smithsonian Magazine: Giant Pandas Are Coming Back to Washington, D.C.; Maura Judkis and Travis M. Andrews for The Washington Post: Let’s argue about the giant pandas; and Smithsonian’s National Zoo & Conservation Biology Institute: Red panda Listener chatter from Annamarie Smith in Sacramento, California: Sukey Lewis and Julie Small for KQED: On Our Watch: New Folsom For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David talk about pronatalism and the Collins family. See Jenny Kleeman for The Guardian: America’s premier pronatalists on having ‘tons of kids’ to save the world: ‘There are going to be countries of old people starving to death’. See also Luke Munn for The Conversation: Pronatalism is the latest Silicon Valley trend. What is it – and why is it disturbing?; Sarah Jones for Intelligencer: There’s Nothing New About Pronatalism; and The Genius Factory: The Curious History of the Nobel Prize Sperm Bank by David Plotz. In the next Gabfest Reads, David talks with Sierra Greer about her new book, Annie Bot: A Novel. Email your chatters, questions, and comments to [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, we recorded a show earlier today, but you may have heard, you may have heard there was some news that broke this afternoon.
0:09.5	It's 5.30 Eastern and we've just heard that former President Trump has been convicted on all
0:17.0	34 felony counts he faced in New York for his payments to Stormy Daniels and the effect that they had on the election,
0:27.4	the campaign distortion caused by it by his payments to Stormy Daniels to hush her up.
0:34.4	So Emily, first of all, what happens to Trump now?
0:39.8	What happens to Trump now is that he will await sentencing. Surely he will try to
0:45.0	file all the motions he can to ask the judge to reconsider the verdict, maybe a
0:51.9	new mistrial motion, and then he'll try to appeal
0:56.0	anything he can. Usually the motions for reconsideration are rejected and this
1:02.1	judge already had some appeals of
1:05.2	earlier rulings that he made so probably the verdict will stand and then this big
1:10.8	question of what kind of sentence Trump will receive is going to
1:13.8	loom and usually a sentencing hearing takes several weeks at least from the time of
1:18.4	the verdict. And the sentencing hearing is scheduled for July 11th and it sounds like from what I've been reading, Emily, I don't know if this is right, that it's very unlikely, even if Trump is sentenced to prison, first of all, there's no guarantee he would be sentenced to jail or to prison.
1:33.4	But even if he were, it's extremely unlikely that the sentence would start
1:37.8	before he, before the election in the sense that he will have lots and lots of appeals going on.
1:43.7	Is that right?
1:44.7	Yeah, I mean you don't always get to stay out of jail or prison if that is your sentence
1:50.4	while your appeals are pending, but sometimes you do.
1:53.4	And I think you're right, given all of the political ramifications
1:57.1	of this verdict and what it would mean
1:58.6	to put someone in jail who's the major candidate president
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