The EAs are 57. The NAs are 43. Two-thirds of the Senate is present on having

40 guilty. The Senate judges that the Respondent Donald John Trump former

President of the United States is not guilty, is charged in the article of impeachment.

It's the NPR politics podcast. I'm Scott Detro. I cover the White House. I'm

Aisha Roscoe. I also cover the White House. I'm Susan Davis. I cover Congress.

And I'm Ron Hulving, Editor-Corespondent. And it is 535 Eastern on Saturday,

February 13th. As you just heard, the Senate has once again acquitted former

President Trump in an impeachment trial. The vote was 57 to 43 to convict. Seven

Republicans joined the Senate Democratic Caucus to convict, but that was ten

votes shy of the two-thirds majority needed. I'd like to hear what you all have

to say about this. Are you dwelling more on the fact that he was acquitted or the

fact that seven Republicans voted to convict, making this the most bipartisan

Senate impeachment trial ever? Sue, let's start with you. I mean, I think we knew

from the beginning that a conviction was unlikely. So in that way, it wasn't a

surprise, but seven, to be honest, was the high end of what I was anticipating.

I think there was very few surprises in this. Six of the seven were the same

six Republicans who voted to agree with Democrats that the Senate had the

authority to have a trial that it was constitutional. And one of the

surprises was Richard Burr, a Republican from North Carolina, who's retiring and

not running for reelection again. And in his statement, he said he didn't believe

that the trial was constitutional, but once the Senate voted to continue with it

and set a precedent saying it was that he believed the evidence proved that

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