Well, I've had some very difficult times in the early 90s.

Many of my friends went bankrupt.

Many of my enemies went bankrupt, also, which I didn't mind at all, but many of my friends

never to be heard from again.

I never did go bankrupt, but I was certainly in trouble.

And you fight, and you keep fighting and you use

your brain and you make a lot of moves and hopefully they're all good moves or most

of them and you end up being much bigger than you were before and it is a

character builder and I love the fact that it's a character builder it's not

something you want to go through every 10 years of your life,

but you do learn a lot about yourself, Robert. Right. The reason we want to do this is because,

for me, it was in the early 80s. I only went down a million, but a million... That's not very much. I know, I know. Good. Congratulations. Thank you.

But a million dollars back then was everything.

You know, it was everything.

I was wiped out.

I had nothing.

I didn't declare bankruptcy either because I decided to just fight back.

And I think that's my, our message, right?

It's the time to fight back.

Don't give up.

We will, everybody goes through tough times. And for some people, they

come out the other side better. Other people don't. And so we're encouraging people to do better.

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