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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Donald Hoffman and Joscha Bach: Is Reality Computation or Consciousness?

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.6606 Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2022

⏱️ 142 minutes

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Summary

Donald Hoffman and Joscha Bach debate whether consciousness is computational and reality fundamental They debate the limits of a Theory of Everything and examine how physical and algorithmic worlds intersect.- 00:00:00 - Introduction- 00:03:34 - Theory of Everything possible? / Definition of Consciousness- 00:08:32 - Spacetime's fundamental nature (or not)- 00:14:27 - Joscha Bach on mysterianism, telepathy, and consciousness- 00:34:40 - Joscha has a way of interpreting the Bible literally- 00:42:01 - Physical world vs Computational world- 00:57:57 - Gödel and changing the definition of truth to provable / computable- 01:12:33 - Mind parts that make statements beyond computation- 01:13:57 - Real numbers don't exist?- 01:15:23 - [Prof. Edward Lee] Reality is not necessarily algorithmic- 01:34:02 - Donald Hoffman on Free Will- 01:44:03 - Joscha Bach on Free Will and whether a TOE exists- 01:57:10 - Changes in Bach's model if classical logic was correct- 02:07:42 - Penrose and Lucas argument regarding Gödel and the mind- 02:13:55 - Closing thoughts from Bach and Hoffman on each other's workSPONSORS:- Brilliant: 20% off - https://brilliant.org/TOE- Algo YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ- Algo website - https://www.algo.com/- Patreon - https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto donation - https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal donation - https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter - https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord - https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora - https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Reddit - https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Merch - https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerchRESOURCES:- YouTube - https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww- QBism Paper - https://arxiv.org/abs/1003.5209- Donald Hoffman's book The Case Against Reality (affiliate) - https://amzn.to/34eWmxz- Plato and the Nerd (affiliate) - https://amzn.to/34GMexr- Better Left Unsaid documentary - http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is an episode that's been almost one year in the making the theologution of Donald Hoffman and Yoshabakh,

0:07.3

both of whom should be extremely familiar to you if you've surveyed this channel before,

0:11.5

as we've done an unduly technical dive into Donald Hoffman's research papers,

0:15.5

and we've spoken to Yoshabakh several times before as well.

0:18.9

If you're unfamiliar, Donald Hoffman is a professor at the University of Irvine, California,

0:24.1

studying consciousness and evolutionary psychology using mathematical models. And Yoshabak is a cognitive

0:29.7

scientist recognized in the field of AI as being exceptionally ingenious. Both have unexampled views

0:35.8

of consciousness and free will will which harmonize and contradict

0:39.3

in prepossessing and informative ways. Click on the timestamp in the description if you'd like to

0:43.8

skip this intro. My name is Kurtzai Mungle. I'm a Torontoian filmmaker with a background in

0:49.2

mathematical physics dedicated to the explication of the variegated terrain of theories of everything.

0:55.0

From a theoretical physics perspective, but as well as analyzing consciousness and seeing its potential connection to fundamental reality, whatever that is.

1:03.0

Essentially, this channel is dedicated to exploring the underived nature of reality, the constitutional laws that govern it,

1:10.0

provided those laws exist at all,

1:11.6

and are even knowable to us. If you enjoy witnessing and engaging with others on the topics of

1:16.2

psychology, consciousness, physics, etc., the channel's themes, then do consider going to the

1:21.5

Discord and the subreddit, which are linked in the description. There's also a link to the

1:25.6

Patreon. That is patreon.com slash

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Kurchai Mungle. If you'd like to support this podcast, as the patrons and the sponsors are the only

1:33.0

reasons that I'm able to have podcasts of this quality and this depth, given that I can do this

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now full-time, thanks to both the patrons and the sponsors support. Speaking of sponsors,

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there are two. The first sponsor is brilliant.

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