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The Daily Stoic

Don’t Get Even, Get Justice | Cultivate Indifference

The Daily Stoic

Daily Stoic | Wondery

Education, Daily Stoic, Society & Culture, Stoic, Stoicism, Self-improvement, Business, Stoic Philosophy, Philosophy, Ryan Holiday

4.64.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2021

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

“These are angry times… with plenty to be angry about. From politicians that have failed us to systemic evils that have gone on for too long. Maybe you’re someone who was conned, pressured into spending money you didn’t have with the hope of promises someone didn’t keep. Maybe you were hurt in an accident. Maybe you were wrongly deprived of your liberties or fair share.”

Ryan explains why justice should always prevail over anger, and reads this week’s meditation from The Daily Stoic Journal, on today’s Daily Stoic Podcast.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, prime members. You can listen to the Daily Stoic podcast early and add free on Amazon music download the app today

0:10.4

Welcome to the Daily Stoic podcast each day. We bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoics

0:17.5

Illustrated with stories from history

0:19.5

Current events and literature to help you be better at what you do and at the beginning of the week

0:24.3

We try to do a deeper dive setting a kind of stoic intention for the week something to meditate on something to think on

0:31.4

Something to leave you with to journal about whatever it is you happen to be doing

0:35.8

So let's get into it

0:40.5

Don't get even get justice

0:43.0

These are angry times with plenty to be angry about from politicians that have failed us to systemic evils that have gone on for too long

0:51.2

Maybe you're someone who was conned pressured into spending money

0:55.1

You didn't have with the hope of promises someone didn't keep maybe you were hurt in an accident

1:00.1

Maybe you were wrongly deprived of your liberties or your fair share

1:04.2

It makes sense that you're angry

1:06.0

It makes sense that you'd want to get even but the Stoics would urge you to question that anger

1:10.7

Not because they think you should accept this ill treatment because they think that getting revenge is not the right response

1:16.2

First they would say that anger rarely leads to well thought out responses

1:21.2

Second because there's something better out there than getting even when Marcus Aurelius wrote that the best revenge is to not be like that

1:28.6

He wasn't precluding other actions, you know

1:31.3

Given that he held up justice as a cardinal virtue and adjudicated many legal cases

1:36.4

We know that he was also a strong believer in holding people accountable

1:40.1

Musonius Rufus has a whole lecture entitled will the philosopher prosecute anyone for personal injury which argues against holding personal grudges

1:49.6

Yet he also famously prosecuted several major cases in Rome against people who had committed grievous wrongs against other Stoics

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