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Grant’s Current Yield Podcast

Don’t fear the repo

Grant’s Current Yield Podcast

Grant's Financial Publishing, INc.

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4.6693 Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2019

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

George Selgin, director of the #Cato Institute's center for monetary and financial alternatives, calls in to discuss remarkable recent events in the banking system and the potential implications.

@GeorgeSelgin

1:21 A money market which fails to clear

5:45 Interest on excess reserves: Unintended consequences

11:24 Too much collateral = too much debt?

15:50 More QE on the way

20:10 Fixes to fixes to fixes

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, this is current yield, Grant's interest rate observer of the air.

0:09.0

I am Jim Grant and with me as always Eric Whitehead at the control panel, the great Evan Lorenz,

0:14.5

deputy editor of Grants, Phil Grant, who manages and indeed operates our almost daily grants, daily bulletin. And with us today is

0:24.9

George Selwyn, who is a very young chap to be an emeritus professor of anything, but he is,

0:30.7

in fact, that in addition to being a senior fellow and director of the center of monetary

0:37.1

and financial alternatives at the Cato Institute in

0:40.0

Washington. He's also a zoologist, writes a motorcycle and all sorts of study. Author, many books,

0:46.2

not least a current one called Floored. And the subtitle is as provocative and as thoughtful as

0:52.8

the author. And here's the subtitle,

0:54.3

how a misguided Fed experiment deepened and prolonged the Great Recession that came out last year.

0:59.5

But it is timely as tomorrow. So George, welcome. Welcome to this podcast.

1:03.7

Thanks for having me, Jim. I'm really excited to be speaking with you.

1:07.1

Yeah, well, that's great. Well, George, as you know, I know you're a most worldly academic. You are a scholar, but also quite alert to affairs on Wall Street. And as you well know, a couple of Tuesdays ago, the most improbable thing happened. The market would not seem to clear in something called repurchase, a repo, recondite corner of the money

1:29.1

markets, which suddenly basked in the glow of publicity. So 10% was the rate quoted to lend against

1:37.1

the seemingly armor-plated collateral of the solemn obligations of the United States. Treasury,

1:42.5

called Treasury notes, secure bonds, bills, what have you.

1:45.6

And, you know, every other rate in the money market is like 2%, less, more.

1:49.6

This sore thumb of a repo rate pops up, and the Fed did know what to do.

1:54.5

George, what is going on?

1:56.0

Well, first of all, I'm going to toot my horn by pointing out that I anticipated these problems, though

2:02.7

not their severity, as long ago as mid-2018.

2:08.5

And what I said back then was that an occasion will come, given the Fed's plans at the time,

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