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Don't Call it a Brain in a Dish!

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4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

with @PascaStanford, @VijayPande, and @omnivorousread Our understanding of the human brain and its disorders has always been limited by our lack of access to living, human, developing brain tissue. For the first time, that's changing. In this episode, Sergiu Pasca, Professor of Behavioral Science at Stanford, talks with a16'z General Partner Vijay Pande and Hanne Tidnam about the wild new tech that's pioneering a whole new approach to understanding the brain: brain organoids. This conversation covers what these organoids can and can’t do; what they’re good for understanding and where that understanding becomes limited; why calling these “brains in a dish” or “mini-brains” isn’t the right terminology at all; and finally, how far can this new tool and model be taken now and in the future, leading us closer towards understanding psychology itself on a molecular level.

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0:00.0

Hi and in this episode general partner Vijay Pandey and I talk with

0:06.4

Sergio Pashka Professor of Behavioral Science at Stanford all about a new technology

0:11.6

we have for understanding brain disorders, the wild and very sci-fi new frontier of brain organoids.

0:19.0

So what are brain organoids? How were they developed and how can we use them? The conversation

0:24.3

starts with the essential problem that we've never had real access to the tissue

0:28.4

and actions of the developing brain or even a living normal, and the problems with all of our

0:34.9

existing models for understanding it, from genetic studies to autopsies to primates.

0:39.7

We look at those models we've relied on in the past and what this new model of brain organoids now brings us,

0:46.0

allowing us to study the human brain both how it develops and what goes wrong in certain disorders

0:51.9

with living human brain cells in a dish for the very first time.

0:57.2

We talk about what these organoids can do and can't, what they're good for understanding

1:01.7

and where that understanding becomes limited and why calling these mini-brains or brains in a dish isn't the right terminology at all

1:09.5

And finally how far this new tool and model might be taken now and in the future, and how it will lead us closer towards one day even perhaps understanding psychology itself on a molecular level.

1:23.0

We're here today to talk about

1:25.0

understanding brain disorders and some of the new tools we're developing for how to do so.

1:31.0

So let's start where we actually are in that. Are we actually anywhere

1:34.9

significantly more advanced than we were in the days of like hysteria? You know, thinking about things like

1:39.5

like labeling these sort of conditions, societal conditions that we had no clue.

1:43.4

Like where are we actually right now?

1:45.1

psychiatric disorders are still behaviorally defined and there are very few

1:50.3

biomarkers that are considered reliable for diagnosis. The truth is that our

1:54.2

understanding of psychiatric disorder is actually quite limited. I often like to

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