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🗓️ 23 June 2025
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Has Trump now decided he would like to topple Iran’s leadership? He’s let his cabinet tell the world that the only game here was to stop Iran becoming nuclear competent.
Yet, overnight his motivation seems to have changed. Does this change the whole scenario and make an end game much harder? And what kind of conversations is Starmer now having with his inner circle about whether these strikes on Tehran are even legal?
Later, the complicated response of Iranian people as their cities are being bombed. Do they welcome the chance to see the regime fall. Or will they rally to the flag?
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0:12.7 | So this mission was a very precise mission. It had three objectives, three nuclear sites. |
0:17.7 | It was not attack on Iran. It was not an attack on the Iranian people. |
0:25.5 | This wasn't a regime change move. Our view has been very clear that we don't want a regime change. |
0:30.7 | We do not want to protract this or build this out any more than it's already been built out. |
0:36.6 | We want to end their nuclear program. And then we want to talk to the Iranians about a long-term settlement here. |
0:38.9 | This mission was not and has not been about regime change. That was the three musketeers, the defense secretary, the secretary of state, |
0:45.1 | and the vice president, all stating regime change is not the policy. Except that someone seems to |
0:52.6 | have taken a different view. Yeah. |
1:00.2 | Overnight, President Trump has suggested that although it might not be politically correct, his phrase, |
1:04.3 | regime change could make Iran great again. |
1:07.7 | Is this an off-the-cuff remark we should take with a pinch of salt, or is he basically setting out to overhaul Iran? Welcome to the newsagents. |
1:19.1 | The Newsagents. It's John. It's Emily. And once again, Donald Trump makes it so difficult to work with, because you all agreed a line. It's all settled. |
1:31.8 | This isn't about regime change. It's just about targeting Iran's nuclear ambitions. And then |
1:37.6 | Donald Trump comes out and flatly contradicts the agreed line. And that gives echoes of stuff |
1:44.0 | of 2003, the invasion of Iraq, when there was regime |
1:47.9 | changed very firmly in sight, and the never-ending wars, which Donald Trump was supposedly against. |
1:53.8 | So it complicates the picture in the Middle East, and it complicates the feelings of those who |
2:00.2 | support MAGA in America thinking, |
2:02.6 | has Donald Trump gone rogue and gone back on everything he stood for? |
2:07.6 | Yeah. What it essentially allows America and Israel to do now is create the space to keep bombing. |
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