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This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelor. My conversation with Sean McMeacon,

Professor at Bard College, author of the new book, Stalin's War.

This is a tour of the familiar territory in 1939 to 1948.

From the point of view of Moscow, there are however puzzles.

One of the puzzles we've bypassed, but I want to come back because it's not all on FDR

telling himself this will work out. It's also Winston Churchill.

Sean, who are the Chetniks? Who is McCullovich? What is Churchill make of the

presentation he's given by the BBC and other Czechist agents in London

that he should side with the wrong people in Yugoslavia?

Well, I do think Churchill at times during the war would put up at least a little bit more

fight than Roosevelt did on some questions in strategy, but not in Yugoslavia.

I mean, this is definitely a good one to single out where I think Churchill really was Hoodwinked.

Now, to be fair, there was some evidence and some of it was uncovered by British intelligence,

the so-called Enigma decrypts, that Mihailovich, who was this officer in the former Yugoslav

army, who was the legatee of the Yugoslav government in exile in London,

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