This is a HeadGum Podcast. I don't know what to think I don't know what to say

and that's all right

yeah that's all right

I don't know how I'm going to.

Hello, welcome to factually, I'm Adam Conover

and, you know, if you're like like me you've been reading the news a lot more lately I mean I was already reading it but right now it definitely seems like a matter of life and death you know instead of just reading it to figure out, oh, what, uh, what happened in

Chile or China today. I'm reading it to figure out, when will I be able to go back outside?

And also, you know, are my elected leaders? I be able to go back outside?

And also, you know, are my elected leaders doing what they need to be doing to help our fellow

citizens in this time of need?

It's really, really fraught stuff.

We need journalists out there right now reporting the news for us more than ever.

But if you've been reading the news this century, you've probably also seen the stories about how the news industry is dying.

Journalists are getting fired, papers are closing, and now everyone gets their news from

Facebook comments and Twitter eggs. The fourth estate is in peril. and

look the employment numbers tell the sad story

the number of journalism jobs at newspapers

dropped by almost half between 2008 and 2018.

Like, imagine having less than half the delivery workers we had in 2008,

or less than half the waiters, or teachers, or really any other occupation.

That would be bad, right?

I mean, it would be catastrophic for that industry

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