Does Syria dare to dream?
James O'Brien - The Whole Show
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🗓️ 9 December 2024
⏱️ 153 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Three minutes after 10 is the time. A very good morning indeed to you. I hope you had a splendid, |
| 0:06.9 | a splendid weekend. I guess if you are Syrian, then you are celebrating. Well, almost certainly |
| 0:16.1 | you are celebrating. The thing about regimes is that there are people favoured by them, however oppressive a regime may be. |
| 0:23.4 | But I thought we'd begin by acknowledging that there are days when you think you know your way around the subject. |
| 0:31.5 | There are days when you think, do you know what, I'm pretty good on this. |
| 0:33.8 | I've done my homework or by some sort of process of intellectual osmosis. I've absorbed |
| 0:39.5 | enough knowledge, information over the years that I feel equipped for this conversation. |
| 0:48.3 | There are days when you find yourself in the polar opposite position. Most days you're somewhere |
| 0:51.9 | between the two. It might sound odd to you, |
| 0:54.7 | but I remember a kid at school whose dad was a diplomat, made a speech about Yugoslavia. His dad had |
| 1:00.7 | been based in Yugoslavia. And I only realized years later what a prescient speech that was. And it was |
| 1:06.8 | all about essentially how Tito held together a conglomerate of interests and territories |
| 1:14.2 | that really had no business being a country. The grip that a certain type of leader can |
| 1:20.2 | exercise over a country is simultaneously tight and loose. You know, you see the speed with which Bashar al-Assad's regime has been dispatched in Syria. |
| 1:32.7 | Well, that's the thing about these kinds of overthrows, isn't it? |
| 1:37.0 | They begin, they start slowly and then go quickly, like bankruptcy in the Great Gatsby. |
| 1:42.8 | Because it's been going on for years, |
| 1:44.8 | the rebellion, but there's this final push has, I think, the speed of which has taken everybody |
| 1:51.0 | by surprise. And you kind of find yourself freewheeling on the question of what will happen next. Nick mentioned a moment ago, |
| 2:03.3 | quite rightly, the shadows cast by previous experiences such as this, or at least experiences |
| 2:10.3 | that feel similar from this side of the world. So you would think, I think, first probably |
| 2:16.6 | of Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, |
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