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Does secular humanism or Christianity offer a brighter future? Sara Stevenson vs Neil McKain

Unbelievable?

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 19 January 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Andy Kind hosts today's Unbelievable where the debate topic is Does Secular Humanism or Christianity offer a brighter future for the UK? We have teamed up with our friends at Aylesbury Vale Youth For Christ a pioneering youth ministry that holds debates in UK schools in the style of Unbelievable to engage the students in the big questions of life, faith and differing worldviews. A key component is that the students get to put their questions directly to the debaters. So grab your schoolbag as we join a fascinating debate held at the end of 2023 between secular humanist Neil McKain and Christian apologist Sara Stevenson. Neil McKain is also the vice-chairman of Humanists UK, and a religious studies teacher. Sara Stevenson who is a writer, speaker and theologian from the Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics. This was a debate held at St Michaels School in Aylesbury, UK. The debate was moderated by head of Religious Studies, Mark Smallwood.  https://www.theocca.org/ https://aylesburyvale.yfc.co.uk/ https://standrewsbookshop.co.uk/product/hidden-in-plain-sight-2-2/ • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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I've only got 150, but I also need to do a food shop.

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Got to a point where I couldn't even afford bread and milk.

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I didn't see a way out.

0:15.6

I didn't want to let my kids down.

0:17.4

So I picked up their phone to call Kat,

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and that's when everything changed.

0:21.3

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0:33.5

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Let's fight poverty together.

0:42.0

You just can't prove it's true. I don't believe I was raised Catholic. I went to

0:45.5

Catholic primary school I went to a Catholic middle school I went to a Catholic

0:48.3

secondary school my headteacher was a priest I went to a Jesuit school and my

0:52.2

parents still Catholic my parents still

0:53.7

believe stuff that I think is utterly nonsensical can I still got on with my

0:57.6

parents yeah do I think they believe stuff that doesn't make sense to me now

1:01.0

yeah that's fine.

1:08.8

On the one hand, our justice movements are saying there's no objective truth, Christianity is wrong, but then they're coming behind us saying,

1:12.0

but this is what you should believe.

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