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Does ‘Rhythm’ Hold the Key to Sports Greatness?

ESPN Daily

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Sports

4.63.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Some of the greatest achievements in sports and music are the product of the same phenomenon––finding your flow. That is the motivating idea behind a new ESPN Film, from the mind of Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart, titled “Rhythm Masters.” Hart interviewed numerous athletes and coaches from different sports, from Phil Jackson and Laila Ali, to Marshawn Lynch and Joe Montana. The result is an exploration of the common threads between top level athletes and musical artists. Our own Wright Thompson worked with Hart on the film. In advance of its premiere tonight on ESPN, he takes us inside the production team’s artistic process, explains Bill Walton’s influence on the project, and examines the often overlooked role that creativity plays in athletic greatness. For more on Bill Walton and the Grateful Dead, check out our 2021 conversation with the man himself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Right Thompson, what is your relationship with the Grateful Dead's Music for you personally?

0:06.0

Well, I was in a van on the way to the Appalachian Trail at a trip organized by Alpine Camp for Boys,

0:15.0

so I would have been 14, 15.

0:18.0

And one of the counselors was playing American Beauty, the cassette. And I was like, what is this?

0:29.0

And like lots of people, especially teenagers living and what Bill Clinton calls rural

0:36.6

obscurity, the idea that there was this culture out there that moved across the world and traveled like gypsies or like wanderers or

0:46.7

trumidores or whatever the teenage me just loved that. Until 1995, they were Taylor Swift.

0:57.0

I mean, it was the biggest summer tour, both in terms of sort of counterculture scene of the people following the band around and the commerce of it.

1:06.3

I mean this wasn't like an underground thing.

1:08.8

I mean they were selling out big, big, big venues.

1:12.3

And so the best way to think of it is culturally

1:15.0

every year from say 1986 to 1995 they put on the arrows tour.

1:19.5

I ask you that because you

1:25.0

because you've just worked on this E-S-P-N films project with Grateful Dead drummer Mickey

1:28.8

Hart and in the film Mickey repeatedly says, the quote,

1:33.0

he who knows the rhythm knows the world.

1:36.0

Rhythm is one of the ordering principles of the universe and one of its greatest mysteries.

1:47.0

He who knows the rhythm knows the world.

1:52.0

So can you explain what any of this has to do with sports?

1:57.0

The intersection with sports is, you know, Mickey Hart's best friend in the world was our

2:02.0

late colleague Bill Walton.

2:04.8

And so they used to sit around and talk, you know, what if you replaced announcers with drums?

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