Does Ohio State need to throw more often? Mark It Down Monday
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🗓️ 3 July 2023
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, hey, where you been? But got talk is about to begin. Hey, hey, hey, come on in. |
| 0:28.0 | Welcome back to another Monday. Buck, I talked to you about calm. It's market down Monday, which means we're marking it down. Doug Lamar East, Nathan Beard, Steven, means a little weird. This one, they think this one weird. |
| 0:38.0 | It's not as simple as receiving yards for Marvin Harrison, Jr. or rushing yards for somebody or tackle leaders or sacks. Is this one weird? |
| 0:48.0 | It is weird and it's a little bit harder to pen because we are guessing or not guessing predicting analyzing so many different factors are going to one thing. |
| 1:00.0 | So what is that thing? We are marking down what percent of plays in 2023 for the Ohio State Buck guys will be past plays. |
| 1:11.0 | And then you do the minus thing and then you get the run place. So like, here's how it would be like all the plays is a hundred percent of the plays. |
| 1:20.0 | And then what percent of them did they throw the ball and what percent of them did they run the ball? Now, this is in elegant. This counts scrambles as runs. This counts wide bubble screens as passes when actually wait like the way Ryan Day thinks about it. |
| 1:38.0 | Those are actually part of the run game. It counts RPO, which is a run pass option. It counts a throw out of that as a pass when actually Ryan Day thinks of that as part of the run game, right? |
| 1:51.0 | There's it's a difference between how you threaten the defense and what the stat show. |
| 1:56.0 | I don't know what are we supposed to do. We always talk about it. Hey, we're going to go back and track. We're going to count the real run yards and the real pass yards that takes so much work. |
| 2:06.0 | Otherwise, the stats are so we're going by the stats that are sitting in front of you. |
| 2:10.0 | At the end of the year, they say, this is how many plays of Ohio State ran. This is how many passes they threw everything else was a rushing attempt. |
| 2:19.0 | Sacks are in rushing it. No, several are sacks and sacks are in rushing attempts, right? Yeah. So that's part of it. So that's confusing. It's like, well, I dropped back to pass. It was a pass play, but I got sacked. Now it's a rushing attempt. |
| 2:30.0 | We're just going by the stats, but it tells us something, I think, Stephen, because in the end, we compare it to what Ohio State has done. So for instance, last year, by the Roth stats, Ohio State, through the ball on 46.8% of their plays. |
| 2:48.0 | And they ran the ball on 53.2% of their plays. So for instance, Stephen, we have a comparison to how they did it last year. Do we think they should run it more pass it more. |
| 2:58.0 | And that's what we're looking for here. We're looking for a comparison of Ohio State against itself compared to seasons of the past when they've been the most successful, when they've been less successful. |
| 3:09.0 | The Roth stats, even though they're in elegance, Stephen can tell us that a little bit, right? As long as we have the context of what the bookies have done before. |
| 3:17.0 | Yeah. And I mean, you work in the sacks and scrambles and stuff like that is, you know, it kind of skews your numbers a little bit, but most of this stuff is purposeful, especially in an offense like this, especially the last two years with CJ Stroud Company that started quarterback, where he wasn't getting sacked that often, and he really didn't run. |
| 3:37.0 | So a lot of the stuff outside of bubble screens were purposeful pass plays and purposeful run plays. |
| 3:44.0 | That's a big part of this. And I do think Nathan, do you think there is some decent comparisons here? |
| 3:50.0 | Dwayne Haskins didn't run at all. Justin Fields was more willing to run. We certainly have some stats. We're going to compare back to the days of like J.T. Barrett when you had a running quarterback. |
| 4:00.0 | The last one I went back to is 2014. Is there a good enough comparison between CJ Stroud, the last two seasons of quarterback who just did not run that much, did not scramble that much. |
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