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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Does Love Require Complete Acceptance? (Jedidiah Jenkins)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

“Nature, the universe, speaks in metaphor, and one of its truest things is paradox, is holding two things that are both true at once. I remember laying in bed, I was probably 12 and before I go to bed, I'm thinking about the universe because my brain suddenly works and I'm like, how can space be infinite? Infinity makes no sense to my mind. So then I'm imagining space expand, expand, expand. And then I hit a wall, which is the edge of space. And then I go, okay, so let's say if space isn't infinite, well, if you get to the edge of space to the wall, what's on the other side of the wall? There has to be something on the other side of the wall. There can't be nothing. And so I remember thinking in that moment, those two scenarios are both impossible, but then also finiteness is impossible because there must be something on the other side of the wall. And I remember laying there being like, oh, I actually think the computer brain that we have is not designed to understand the wholeness of reality. We're stuck in a partial understanding.” It’s likely fate that Jedidiah Jenkins is a writer—a New York Times bestseller at that. After all, his parents sold more than 12 million books in the early years of their writing careers, when they were still married, and a duo—they wrote a series of books about walking, yep walking, across America. In Jedidiah’s latest book—Mother, Nature—he retraces their journey by car, with his mother riding shotgun. He suggested this trip to his mother because he wanted to see the world through her eyes—to understand who she is by accessing who she was—and also because of a chasm that keeps them apart. See, Jedidiah is gay, while his mother believes—ardently—that homosexuality is a sin. And a choice. Mother, Nature is a beautiful and tender love story between a mother and a son that revolves around one of Jedidiah’s foundational beliefs: That he cannot excommunicate his mother, even if she might not come to his eventual marriage to a man.  MORE FROM JEDIDIAH JENKINS: Mother, Nature: A 5,000-Mile Journey to See if a Mother and Son Can Survive Their Differences To Shake the Sleeping Self: A Journey from Oregon to Patagonia, and a Quest for a Life with No Regret Life Streams to the Ocean: Notes on Ego, Love, and the Things That Make Us Who We Are Jedidiah’s Website Follow Jedidiah on Instagram To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. Today, I'm joined by the wonderful

0:05.8

Jedediah Jenkins, author of the just-released Mother Nature. Hi, friends, throughout this

0:13.2

holiday season, you will find me right here per normal. We will keep publishing new episodes

0:19.8

every week and a few solos thrown in as well.

0:24.4

So when you just need to escape from the business of the holiday shuffle or take a break from

0:29.3

mom or dad or who knows who, we'll be here as we always are.

0:33.6

We'll be here as we always are.

0:47.8

Hi, it's Elise Loonan, host of Pulling the Thread.

0:54.0

On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here. Pulling the thread is about

0:56.1

big questions, why we do what we do, how we can understand our own experiences within a larger

1:01.4

spiritual and historical context, the ways in which we might begin to understand ourselves and

1:06.6

each other better, and what's required to heal ourselves and our world.

1:11.1

I'll be joined in conversation by luminaries and wise elders, those who have laid tracks

1:15.7

in their work and lives to help us bring meaning and understanding to a world that often

1:20.2

feels chaotic and overwhelming.

1:22.6

My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness so that we

1:28.5

might all collectively learn and grow. Nature, the universe speaks in metaphor and one of its truest things

1:39.2

is paradox, is holding two things that are both true at once. Like, I remember laying in bed, I was probably 12.

1:46.5

And before I go to bed, I'm thinking about the universe

1:49.5

because my brain suddenly works.

1:51.5

And I'm like, how can space be infinite?

1:55.5

Infinity makes no sense to my mind.

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