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Does humanism or Christianity offer the world a better future? Mike Jones "Inspiring Philosophy" vs Stephen Law

Unbelievable?

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

What kind of future does humanity need? One shaped by Christian theism or guided by secular humanism? In this edition of Unbelievable?, philosopher and atheist Dr. Stephen Law goes head-to-head with Christian apologist and YouTuber Mike Jones (Inspiring Philosophy) to debate which worldview offers a stronger foundation for meaning, morality, and human flourishing. Do concepts like human rights, dignity, and progress depend on a belief in God? Can secular humanism provide a compelling vision for the future without religion? Which worldview better addresses suffering, justice, and hope? 👉 Support thought-provoking conversations and help keep the show going at https://www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate💡  🎧 Never miss an episode! Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast at www.premier.plus/unbelievable 🎙️ 🔗 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes - absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 📢 Social Links: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable

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0:45.9

Hello, welcome to Unbelievable with me, your host, Andy Kind.

0:50.7

Today we are live on location at the very glamorous spot.

0:56.8

The Kenilworth School in Kenilworth, obviously, in association with Kenilworth, YFC, Youth for Christ. And we are joined by two very esteemed guests who are going to be in conversation with us

1:03.3

today. To my left is Dr. Stephen Law, philosopher and one of the foremost global exponents of humanism that there is. I don't think

1:13.5

that's unfair to say. Well, I wrote a book about it. He's written a book about it. So he's already

1:18.3

top 10, isn't he? And then to my right, all the way from the USA, we have Michael Jones, who is

1:25.0

head of inspiring philosophy, which is a Christian organization that seeks to share the truth of Christianity with a YouTube following alone of nearly 500,000 people.

1:39.2

So I'm very excited to have you both here.

1:42.2

Nice to have you back on the show as well, Dr. Law.

1:44.8

Yeah, very good.

1:45.5

So today's topic is the question.

1:49.3

Does humanism or Christianity provide a brighter future for humanity?

1:55.1

And there'll be plenty of time for discussion and questions from the audience that we have here today.

2:01.0

So let's start with you, Dr. Law, first of all.

2:04.7

It might be helpful to sort of give at least a tour of d'Orison of what humanism is,

2:13.7

sort of the highlights of what humanism is.

2:16.1

Yeah, okay, I'll give it my best short.

2:18.7

So yeah, I read a book, this little very short introduction to humanism.

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