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Does God Decree Events He Doesn’t Want to Happen?

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Desiring God

John Piper, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Desiring God, Theology, 163859, Ask, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Pastor, Questions

4.94.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2017

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

If nothing happens outside of God’s control, then why is this world filled with events that clearly oppose God’s revealed will?

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0:00.0

Well, we begin the new week on the podcast going into a deep theological question, but hang

0:08.5

with us for a moment.

0:10.1

The question is this, if God has two wills, a will of decree and a will of desire, does

0:18.0

God ever decree something to happen that He does not desire to have happen?

0:24.5

And if so, wouldn't He have a divided mind?

0:29.2

Now before you skip this episode, give us a chance to explain more about it because

0:33.0

it's a sharp question from a listener named Ethan.

0:36.0

Pastor John, hello, and thank you for taking my question.

0:38.8

When reading through and discussing the themes at the outset of desiring God your book,

0:43.5

along with does God desire all to be saved?

0:46.0

A perplexing theological question comes to mind.

0:48.9

If God indeed has two wills, one of desire and one of decree, which are both biblically

0:54.8

affirmed, how then does His will of decree overrule in a sense His will of desire?

1:02.6

If God's sovereignty is the foundation of His happiness, as in chapter one of your book

1:07.2

desiring God says, then it seems as if the two wills idea is somewhat insufficient in

1:12.7

addressing texts such as 1 Timothy 2, 3 to 4.

1:16.6

In other words, if God's sovereignty is the foundation of His happiness, how is it

1:21.5

possible for His will of decree to act independent of His will of desire?

1:28.2

Well, let me see if I can help the listeners get into the discussion here because this

1:33.7

is probably landing on them with, huh?

1:37.4

Yeah, exactly.

1:40.6

Ethan is referring to an article I wrote, are there two wills in God?

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