J. Warner Wallace is a cold-case homicide detective who's been investigating cold-case murders

in Los Angeles County for over a decade.

His work has been featured on Fox News, Dateline, and Core TV.

Now, we join him as he applies his investigative skills to making a case for Christiane.

Thanks for joining us at the Cold Case Christiane podcast, I'm J. Warner Wallace.

Most of our podcast are actually also recorded as videos and we post them on our YouTube

channel and on our website.

But this is one of our rare audio-only versions, I have to get a chance to do these once in

a while and I'm glad to do them.

I hope you're having a great fall as we get ready to enter into it the holiday season

at some point here pretty quickly.

And I thought, you know, let's just talk a little bit about some of the conversations

we might have with our loved ones over the holidays.

And one of those is often, if you're talking to non-believers, I just recently had this

conversation, this idea, like, how do you describe the goodness?

The goodness of a God who would ever allow anyone to suffer in hell.

I mean, isn't, if God is good, why would he ever punish anyone in hell?

Especially for somebody who believes in the eternal nature of hell.

Not everyone does.

I mean, there's lots of Christians out there who can make a solid case for what they would

say.

I mean, I think the case is strong on both sides and that's why I don't tend to divide

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