Coming up in this episode on Follow Him.

It's like Moses is saying, guys, there's room on top of Mount Sinai for all of us.

Don't make me go up there by myself.

That was never my intention.

I want to bring the entire House of Israel up with me.

I am teaching it plainly.

You need these ordinances.

We need to be godly.

Don't be afraid of the smoke and the fire and the lightning

and the thunder. This is the presence of God. He wants to invite you into it. In the temple,

he literally invites us into his presence. Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode, Follow Him. My name is Hank Smith. I am your host. I am here with my co-host, John, by the way. John, you are not under condemnation because you have remembered the new covenant, even the book of Mormon. John, when I think of people who love the book of Mormon, John, by the way, sky rockets to the top

of the list.

The entire church is under condemnation, John, except if you were living in this day, the Lord

would say, except for John over there, John's doing a great job.

I think there's a bunch of us that love the book.

Yeah. Probably millions who love it. Yeah. John, we are joined today by Dr. Jared Halverson,

a close friend of ours. He is absolutely spectacular. Jared, welcome to follow him. It's an honor

to be here. I hang out with two of my

heroes. Bring it on. John, Jared and I work at the JSB together. We get to pass each other in the halls and

chat. I have been looking forward to this all year. It was just a conversation we had on the third floor

of the JSB. I said, how about we join forces here for this episode? And he was all for it.

I was chomping at the bit, to be honest. What you do is so incredible. The guests that you have on,

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