Do Those People Need Jesus?

The Liturgists Podcast

The Liturgists

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 3.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2020

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

There is a God shaped hole in your heart, or at least that's what a white Jesus texted his friend in the tract you read as a kid. We were told we need Jesus because total depravity — our inherent defect — has separated us from God. As well, the idea of hell is a strong incentive to share the story of Jesus with others, because if we don't share those people will be tormented forever. In many communities, Jesus was the way people cleaned up their lives, got off drugs or alcohol, and found stability. Being invited into a supportive community like a church is what some people needed to find a job and thrive. What do we do with the religious superiority that stems from seeing everyone else as inherently wrong? What do we do when we see everyone else as needing a life altering conversion? What do we do with the way colonialism has been paired with evangelism to ignore and scrub away people's culture and context? Often the way people teach others about Jesus misses the entire message of who Jesus was. In this episode, Dr. Hillary McBride, William Matthews, and Michael Gungor talk about these ideas of needing Jesus and sharing Jesus with others. We recorded live at The Solvang Folk School Talks in Solvang, California. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out more, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.

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0:00.0	So I'm going to hand it over to Suzanne who is going to be leading us in our singing all day.
0:04.4	Hi everybody, Michael Gunger here.
0:06.5	What you're hearing is the audio from an event last weekend in Solving California.
0:10.4	Thank you everybody.
0:12.4	Oh, I see some great singers here.
0:14.0	And I must say, I've done a fair share of odd events in my life.
0:17.4	But this one, it was one for the books.
0:20.8	He'll be right when Matthew and I were invited to these folk school talks that were being hosted by Elitha Church there.
0:28.0	And while there was a handful of liturgists listeners that showed up, most of the crowd was made up of elderly Lutheran Danes.
0:35.0	There's no grandma just like mine anywhere she is so fine.
0:42.0	You've not any water pity. Yes, it is a pity.
0:49.0	It was one of the more bizarre collisions of cultures that I've ever been a part of.
0:55.0	And I got to say, I enjoyed myself immensely.
1:04.0	While most of the people there had never listened to the liturgists before, and probably had never listened to a podcast before,
1:10.0	we had a really great time discussing issues like embodiment, climate change, the unity of all things.
1:17.0	I mean, you know, Hillary, William and me.
1:20.0	But the three of us also had this really interesting conversation.
1:24.0	And we recorded it, and thought we could use it for today's podcast.
1:28.0	So without further ado, welcome to the liturgist podcast, everybody.
1:36.0	Our world is built with stories.
1:39.0	Sometimes these stories cause suffering by pulling us apart from ourselves and each other.
1:46.0	The liturgist podcast helps people love more and suffer less by pulling apart the stories that pull us apart.
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