Do Not Mess with the Reporter Who Took Down Jeffrey Epstein
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Pablo Torre
4.7 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 4 June 2026
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Julie K. Brown went from working in a bell factory to ringing the alarm on masters of the universe and (finally) winning a Pulitzer. The Miami Herald reporter visits Pablo to shed light on the culture of silence that protected Epstein for so long, the legal dream team that struck his secret deal, then how Epstein pulled out all the stops... to stop her investigation. Plus: the whistleblower who gave away the A-Rod steroid scandal, sneaking into a hospital to interview Joe Frazier... and the maddening therapy of Philly sports.
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Previously on PTFO:
• Part 1: We Investigate Harvard's Hidden Epstein Files
• Part 2: How Harvard Whitewashed Jeffrey Epstein's Millions
• Plus: The NBA Player, the Congressman and the Epstein Files
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. |
| 0:06.7 | Hell no, I'm not going to party with Jeffrey Epstein. |
| 0:10.2 | Right after this ad. |
| 0:18.2 | I love that you're wearing the cardigan. |
| 0:21.2 | Picked it out, especially for you. |
| 0:23.4 | This is a pro-cardigan journalistic institution, Pablo Torre finds out. |
| 0:28.5 | And Julie K. Brown comes wearing, could you describe what you are adorned with today? |
| 0:32.9 | Well, this is sort of like an old-fashioned letterman sweater, but it is adorned with the Phillies, Philadelphia Phillies logo and scrolled across the back. |
| 0:43.7 | It's very girly looking, though. It has pink and roses on it, but... |
| 0:48.7 | But underneath any cracked Liberty Bell insignia, and the rose on the script P is, of course, the implicit threat of not f***ing with the city of Philadelphia. |
| 1:02.1 | Yes, I would say so. |
| 1:04.3 | Or not f***ing with me. |
| 1:07.1 | Which is a lesson all of us should heed, I think. |
| 1:09.7 | But we are meeting because I've been a fan of yours for such a long time. |
| 1:15.2 | Thank you. And one of the great delights in my discovery of not just your reporting, but the person behind the reporting, is that you're an actual unhinged Philadelphia sports fan. |
| 1:28.2 | Yeah, right. |
| 1:29.5 | Well, we almost all are. |
| 1:31.7 | It's not like I'm unique in that category. |
| 1:34.4 | I mean, I'd say I cover a lot of tough news and subjects that are very sensitive and hard. |
| 1:41.0 | And Philadelphia sports just helps me just distract from, you know, covering sexual assault |
| 1:46.7 | and crimes and misconduct and corruption. And, you know, although there is corruption in sports, |
| 1:54.6 | as you know, which is why I appreciate your work. Thank you. It is a good distraction for the most part for me. |
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