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🗓️ 14 September 2021
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Is going into exile safe any longer?
A few years ago, a former Rwandan intelligence chief hiding out in exile was found strangled to death in a Johannesburg hotel room. Hanging on the door outside was a “Do Not Disturb” sign. It had been placed there to buy the assassins a bit of extra time as they fled the country.
This episode looks at the alarming rise in transnational repression and cross-border killings, where dictators and despots hunt down their enemies no matter where they are in the world. In the process, we ask whether dissidents can ever be safe in the 21st century, or if it’s just a matter of time before their murderous authoritarian regime hunts them down.
This episode features Michela Wrong, a phenomenal journalist and author of Do Not Disturb: The Story of a Political Murder and an African Regime Gone Bad, which you can and should buy here: https://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/titles/michela-wrong/do-not-disturb/9781610398435/
It also features the voices of Isabel Linzer and Nate Schenkkan at Freedom House, and you can find their report on transnational repression here: https://freedomhouse.org/report/transnational-repression
And we speak to Geoffrey York, who has reported on Rwanda for years as the Africa Bureau Chief of the Globe & Mail. You can find his reporting here: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/authors/geoffrey-york/
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0:00.0 | Patrick Karagaya, who was the former head of external intelligence and ended up being murdered in South Africa, |
0:06.0 | almost certainly on President Paul Kagame's orders. |
0:10.0 | The really amazing thing is that he was one of Kagame's oldest friends. |
0:17.0 | Patrick Karagaya left his car in the car park at Michelangelo Towers and made his way up to sweet 905. |
0:25.0 | His family would never hear from him again. |
0:28.0 | He said that Patrick and I are like flies. |
0:33.0 | And if they require them to use a hammer to kill a fly, you'll do it. |
0:38.0 | preliminary investigation revealed that he might have been strangled as he displayed his neck was swollen |
0:46.0 | and police also found on the scene a bloodied towel as well as rope in the hotel safe. |
0:53.0 | Should everyone agree when the Rwandan Defence Minister said in relation to that murdered former intelligence chief, |
0:59.0 | when you choose to be a dog, you die like a dog. |
1:02.0 | President Kagame himself said whoever betrays the country will pay the price, will face negative consequences. |
1:08.0 | That's not your government basically nudging and winking that they were behind those killings. |
1:12.0 | Let me put it this way. |
1:15.0 | I don't know anybody who betrays a country that gets rewarded. |
1:20.0 | Let me just put it this way. |
1:25.0 | I'm Brian Klaus and you're listening to Power Corrupts, the podcast where we shine a light under the hidden and often nefarious forces that shape our world. |
1:41.0 | Throughout human history, exile has been a way to get rid of unwanted people without killing them. |
1:47.0 | From the Stone Age, when hunter-gatherers who broke social codes were forced to leave the band and fend for themselves to Napoleon on Elba, |
1:55.0 | our species has often relied on this implicit bargain. |
1:59.0 | Go far, far away, never come back and you can stay alive. |
2:04.0 | Now, after hundreds of thousands of years of exiled people coexisting out of sight and out of mind, that bargain is breaking down. |
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