This is Need to Know.

Real talk about the reality of unidentified aerial phenomena.

From Australia, Ross Colthard, from the U.S. Bryce Zabel.

Well folks, let me welcome all our listeners and viewers to the 10th episode of Need to Know.

You know, we ran this idea up the flagpole last December on the fourth anniversary of the New York Times reporting of the UAP issue.

We're still here.

Our idea then, as it remains today, is to treat our listeners like their time is valuable and to give you a 45-minute briefing on a regular basis.

We've done shows about what's going on right now. We've delved into the hidden history of the issue.

And while we don't pretend to know what the ultimate answer is yet, we do know enough to say that governments have for decades been

telling people nothing to see here while they were taking this issue very, very seriously.

Let me bring in the man down under Ross Coldheart. Ross, every show for me feels like we are

riding a tiger into a very dense jungle. It scares the hell out of me sometimes, but I know that

letting go is just not an option. Look, I agree with you. It's a complex issue, this whole subject matter,

and this is why what I think we're doing here on Need to Know really matters, Bryce, because

ultimately I'm trying to talk to the person who, if I was sitting in a bar in Washington, D.C.

And they asked me, what's all this stuff about UAPs?

I'd tell them to listen to need to know to N.T.K.

So this week, my friend, what we're looking at is do no harm, the threat narrative.

Is there in modern uphology an argument that whatever the

phenomenon is, it's benign that it's no threat to humanity? Or is it, as some are postulating,

a threat? What's the evidence? I thought today would be a good day to do a bit of a dig into that

area. It's a great day to do it. And honestly, if there's just no other issue that seems to divide

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