Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome. I am Karen Hunter and while yes, I am awesome, this podcast is

about people and the things that they have to offer to you. I believe in speaking things into

existence. So it is with that, I offer you these amazing people, these awesome topics.

Sit back and enjoy.

Karen Hunter is awesome.

I am joined today by a gentleman who has become quite a fixture in my life.

Let me welcome to the show.

My personal, what do I call you?

My personal tech guru, genie of all things tech.

Mr. Karim Graves, welcome, welcome.

Hey, Karen, what's up?

A lot.

So we have these off-mike conversations that some of them need to be on mic.

Some should never be on mic.

But this particular one we were having, I said, when I get a chance to sit down with you, I need to be on mic some should never be on mic but this particular one we were having I said

when I get a chance to sit down with you I need to talk to you about this on mic because it's

burning a hole in my soul right okay so we were talking about leadership and business and I said to you

this is the first time in my entire career that I've

run into a person, a man, I'm going to be real, this is going to be one of them conversations.

Well, I've run into a man that is secure enough in his abilities to do things to not try to,

A, dominate, B, come in and feel some ways about my particular power, but also you, you're strong enough in what

you know how to do, that we are complete partners in a lot of things, and it feels great.

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