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Modern Love

‘Do It, I Dare You.’

Modern Love

The New York Times

Love, New York Times, Nytimes, Essay, Loss, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Redemption, Nyt

4.39K Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2022

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

In his early 20s, Kevin Renn moved to New York City with dreams of making it as a playwright. When money got tight, he decided to fall back on a familiar option: babysitting. “The question, though, wasn’t whether I would be a good nanny, but if anyone would let me — as a Black man who is over six feet tall,” Kevin said in his Modern Love essay. Kevin soon became a nanny to Lucas, a 4-year-old boy with a wide smile and stylish parents. Today, Kevin takes us into his secret world with Lucas — their intertwining daily routines, the nights full of spaghetti and meatballs and jazz music, and the times they stood up to strangers with a phrase that became their refrain: “Do it, I dare you.” Then, we get to hear from Lucas, now 7 years old.

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0:00.0

Hello.

0:01.0

Hey, I'm.

0:02.0

Hey, Anna.

0:11.0

From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.

0:13.6

This is Modern Love, and that's my sister, Emily.

0:18.1

Do you remember Miss Dina?

0:21.9

Of course I remember Miss Dina.

0:23.4

She was her baby, so we were living in DC.

0:26.8

Miss Dina took care of me and Emily when we were young, and she's this totally mythical

0:32.2

figure to us.

0:33.9

Our memories of her are full of color.

0:36.5

I remember her hair is like fire engine red.

0:39.0

Me too.

0:40.0

That's only color I remember.

0:41.0

I remember her laugh.

0:42.0

I feel like she was constantly smiling.

0:44.6

In my memory also, she's wearing a turquoise tank top.

0:47.1

Does that track for you?

0:48.7

No.

0:49.7

In my memory, she's wearing a red tank top, V-neck with low rise pants.

0:59.0

We spent a lot of time with Miss Dina.

1:02.4

So many snacks and neighborhood walks and books read out loud.

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