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Dmitry Orlov: Russia’s Incursion Into Ukraine Necessary for Security

Geopolitics & Empire

Geopolitics & Empire

History, News, Government, Politics

4.2568 Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Dmitry Orlov discusses the Ukraine situation and Russia undoing 30 years worth of accumulated damage, while the West punishes itself attempting to thwart Moscow. He discusses the legality of Russia’s military incursion which is absolutely necessary in terms of its security. Putin’s goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists, and form a new legal structure. Regarding energy, the U.S. can’t go without Russia for more than a few months, Russia can go without the U.S. practically forever. Western hysteria threatens escalation of the conflict. Dmitry reveals the mystery of why Putin sits at the far end of the table. He feels the U.S. is destroying the dollar which will destroy American living standards. Western leaders are losing their electorate and he’s concerned of the mental damage that has occurred throughout the West and thinks living in a place of social cohesion will be important.

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About Dmitry Orlov

Dmitry Orlov is a Russian-American engineer and a writer on subjects related to “potential economic, ecological and political decline and collapse in the United States,” something he has called “permanent crisis”. Orlov believes collapse will be the result of huge military budgets, government deficits, an unresponsive political system and declining oil production.

Orlov was born in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg) and moved to the United States at the age of 12. He has a BS in Computer Engineering and an MA in Applied Linguistics. He was an eyewitness to the collapse of the Soviet Union over several extended visits to his Russian homeland between the late 1980s and mid-1990s.

In 2005 and 2006 Orlov wrote a number of articles comparing the collapse-preparedness of the U.S. and the Soviet Union published on small Peak Oil related sites. Orlov’s article “Closing the ‘Collapse Gap’: the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US” was very popular at EnergyBulletin.Net.

Orlov’s book Reinventing Collapse:The Soviet Example and American Prospects, published in 2008, further details his views. Discussing the book in 2009, in a piece in The New Yorker, Ben McGrath wrote that Orlov describes “superpower collapse soup” common to both the U.S. and the Soviet Union: “a severe shortfall in the production of crude oil, a worsening foreign-trade deficit, an oversized military budget, and crippling foreign debt.” Orlov told interviewer McGrath that in recent months financial professionals had begun to make up more of his audience, joining “back-to-the-land types,” “peak oilers,” and those sometimes derisively called “doomers”.

In his review of the book, commentator Thom Hartmann writes that Orlov holds that the Soviet Union hit a “soft crash” because of centralized planning in: housing, agriculture, and transportation left an infrastructure private citizens could co-opt so that no one had to pay rent or go homeless and people showed up for work, even when they were not paid. He writes that Orlov believes the U.S. will have a hard crash, more like Germany’s Weimar Republic of the 1920s.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The Geopolitics and Empire podcast is joined by Dmitri Orlov for what I think is our third,

0:05.5

perhaps fourth interview over the years.

0:07.9

Dmitri, as bombs are flying and Russian banks and communication channels are being shut by

0:12.7

the West, I hope you have a good bottle of vodka and that all is well so far where you are

0:17.4

in Russia.

0:19.1

Everything is fine where I am in Russia.

0:22.6

All right.

0:23.1

I wasn't joking about the vodka.

0:25.7

I have some Mongolian vodka left over from my time in Mongolia, as well as I've got a unique

0:33.2

shot glass here.

0:35.0

Hopefully it doesn't, you know, hopefully things don't escalate to that level. But I've been meaning to get you on for a while and then all hell broke loose. And I shot you a message. And then soon after that, I got listeners sending me messages saying, hey, get Orlovon. And I'm like, bro, chill. I, you know, I'll be speaking to him in a few hours. So it's funny how we're all on the same frequency.

0:55.5

So there's a lot going on, and I don't even know where to start, Dimitri, but, you know,

0:59.3

have we crossed the unipolar Rubicon moment?

1:04.0

Yes, we're basically dealing with a lot of denial in the West.

1:07.9

They still are in the mode of thinking, well, Russia isn't doing

1:13.5

what we wanted to do. Therefore, we must punish ourselves, because that's what the logic is at this

1:21.0

point, whether they wanted or not. So what we're seeing is Russia very hesitantly undoing 30 years worth of damage,

1:34.3

accumulated damage, while the West is busy punishing itself by trying to thwart Russia

1:42.3

in ways that make Russia stronger.

1:45.8

That's what I see happening.

1:47.0

That's the, like, the really quick overview.

1:51.0

And maybe for listeners who don't quite get it

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