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Welcome to the commentary magazine Galey podcast. This is the last day of April. Friday,

April 30th 2021. I am John Pajor. It's the editor of commentary with me as always. Associate

editor, Noah Rothman. Hi, Noah. Hi, John. Senior writer, Christine Rose and high Christine.

Hi, John. An executive editor, Abe Greenwald. Hi, Abe.

Hi, John. So just before we started to tape this, I had on the today show and there was an

interview or snippet of part of interview with President Biden by Craig Melvin and I came in

sort of in the middle. But so I don't know what the precipitating question was, but it had

something to do with masking and Biden said to Melvin, look, look at us. We're sitting here.

We're not wearing masks. We're both vaccinated. We're not wearing masks. But and the camera pulls back

and they're sitting, you know, like, I don't know, 80 feet apart. Let's say it's six. It was way

more than six. It was like, but we're here. We're six feet apart. And you know, we're doing this

because it's just a little bit of prudence. And come on, man, it's a patriotic duty.

So President of the United States, yes, is indoors with Craig Melvin. He is vaccinated. Craig Melvin

is vaccinated. According to guidance, they are well with their, they're well, well more than six

feet apart. What does it mean that it's a patriotic duty for him to be shown maskless, to be,

to go about your life and everybody else going about their lives, living as though they are not

vaccinated? That kind of actually answered this. You can if you do it quickly because we need to go

on to Abe's great example that will be the secondary example of what we're talking about. Sure.

Dr. Rochelle Wilinski, CDC director, people who sign up to FECK in the Atlantic and others now say

that it is not a responsibility in the part of the vaccinated to, you know, avoid infecting other

people because the likelihood that you'll get this disease much less transmitted is very low. The

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