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The Allender Center Podcast

Disruption and Defiance in the Resurrection

The Allender Center Podcast

The Allender Center

Psychology, Religion & Spirituality, Mental Health, Christianity, Trauma, Health & Fitness, Theology

4.6628 Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

It feels as though we’ve been living in a year of Lent, Dan comments, let alone the past forty days as we near the end of Holy Week. So, on this Holy Saturday, Dan and Rachael begin a timely conversation about the reality, disruption, and defiance of the resurrection. The resurrection is not meant for only sometime in the future, but for the here and now. We need to remember that though death persists, it does not have the final say. This is why, as Rachael notes, we can hold onto hope and follow in the way of Jesus, doing the holy work of living in a way that stands at odds against the status quo structures of this world.

Resources:

Follow @aapi.liturgy on Instagram

Listen to an episode on “Holding the Tension of Holy Saturday”

Read an article by Abby Wong-Heffter titled “Racism and Sexual Harm: Seeds of White Supremacy and Anti-Asian Violence”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast.

0:06.7

I'm Dr. Dan Allender.

0:08.7

And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen.

0:10.5

We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world.

0:14.7

And restoration for the heart.

0:17.2

Thank you for joining us.

0:18.5

Let's get this conversation started.

0:27.9

Thank you for joining us. Let's get this conversation started. Well, Rachel, we are on the precipice of the resurrection.

0:34.4

Not quite there yet, but I'm just wondering if you're going to be orienting east.

0:41.7

Yeah, when you say that, first thing that comes to mind is like, oh, yeah, you live on the

0:45.3

West Coast. I live on the East Coast. Is that what you're talking about? And then I'm like, no,

0:48.8

you're literally talking about the meaning of Easter. And it's funny because I'm not a sunrise person. I'm much more of a

0:56.1

sunset person. I find myself perpetually facing the West, which also is true in my vocational work

1:03.5

to be more in the setting sun stories for people. So, but you know, tomorrow, yes, Easter Sunday, I will be oriented toward

1:14.0

the East looking for a new day to dawn. Well, I did not realize that I was a morning person.

1:21.7

I would never have said that about myself. In fact, the idea of it is offensive to me. But

1:27.3

due to COVID and many other matters,

1:31.4

we've been getting up early, early in the morning, hours before sunrise. And so that notion of

1:38.7

being able to look to the light, to have that sense of the rising morning that is going to illuminate and give

1:48.4

a new freshness, a softness, a beauty to the day. No wonder we call it Easter. But as we step

1:56.3

into talking about the resurrection, it's so important that we name the reality that most of us

2:06.2

have been living in a year of Lent, let alone the last 40 days. Yeah, I mean, it feels almost like anywhere you look right now, death is very persistent.

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