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🗓️ 14 November 2019
⏱️ 28 minutes
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What are the rules when people have to lose their jobs? It's always a difficult situation - which is why it's often handled badly. Evan Davis and guests ask if there is a better way of doing it.
GUESTS
Angela O'Connor, Founder and CEO, The HR Lounge Consultancy
Sian Keall, Partner, Employment Law, Travers Smith LLP
Kate Griffiths-Lambeth, Group HR Director, Charles Stanley, Wealth Managers
Producer: Julie Ball Editor: Hugh Levinson
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0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
0:05.4 | Hello and welcome to the programme. |
0:07.7 | Employees fire their employer all the time by resigning their jobs and working out their notice. |
0:13.5 | No one has a problem with that. |
0:15.0 | It's a far more fraught affair when companies fire their staff for whatever reason. |
0:20.1 | That becomes a case of the relatively |
0:22.0 | powerless individual versus the mighty organisation. And the law is there to regulate how |
0:27.5 | it happens and on what terms. So today we want to examine companies laying staff off. |
0:34.7 | Now we'll run through half a dozen different reasons for companies doing that, and we'll look at the different issues that arise in each. |
0:40.9 | And I have very senior experts in the field with me, all I should say well honed to advise employers on how to hire and fire more than employees. |
0:50.4 | But fear not, we're not going to turn this into a plot against workers or a campaign against the evils of employment protection. |
0:57.0 | We want to understand how the system works and indeed whether it works. |
1:02.1 | So let us meet the guests. |
1:03.7 | And first up, Angela O'Connor, the founder and chief executive of the consultancy, the HR Lounge. |
1:09.8 | So what sort of clients would you serve, Angela? |
1:12.1 | As a whole range, both national, international, public and private sector clients. And we provide them |
1:18.5 | with services that relate to people in the organisation. So it might be some of the things that |
1:24.1 | people would see is very positive. So coaching, supporting people through development, |
1:30.4 | building confidence in staff, whole range of things. And then there's the other side, |
1:34.7 | which is when things go wrong. So we have an investigation arm. We support organisations |
1:40.6 | investigating independently and objectively, grievances, disciplinaries, we deal with |
1:47.3 | mediation. So the whole range of things that an organisation might need to deal with in terms of |
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