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The Documentary Podcast

Disagreeing better

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Why do we hold our opponents in contempt? Former British politician Douglas Alexander believes that disagreement is good - it is how the best arguments get refined. But, today, public discourse has become so ill-tempered, snide and lacking in respect that we are no longer engaged in a battle of ideas but a slanging match. Time to dial down the rhetoric, rein in the insults - they will persuade no-one that your opinion is worth listening to - and pay attention.

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0:00.0

The United Kingdom, like many countries, is deeply divided and those divisions have turned ugly.

0:09.0

Just listen to the voices of three female politicians from different parties describing the sort of abuse they've had to endure.

0:21.0

They'd threatened to come down and they were going to rape me and beat me up.

0:27.0

A far-right website in the United States initiated the hashtag,

0:32.0

which the police said resulted in me receiving over 2.5,000

0:37.0

violent, pornographic, anti-Semitic extreme messages in just one day alone.

0:43.0

I do object to being called a Nazi actually.

0:46.0

This is what has happened to our country actually.

0:50.0

This is what's happened to our country.

0:52.0

There have always been politicians ready to exploit our differences.

0:57.0

But now, members of the public in unprecedented numbers abuse insult, and threaten politicians.

1:05.4

As this race to the bottom gathers peace, it seems everyone's losing.

1:10.0

I have a lot of friends on Capitol Hill and Washington, members of the U.S. Congress and Senate,

1:14.0

and they'll say to me, I just feel like I'm blown on the winds of this thing.

1:18.0

That's Harvard Professor Arthur Brooks.

1:21.0

If I actually say what I think, which is the people on the other side of the aisle, the other party, I don't hate them as people, I'll lose my next election.

1:28.0

And so I think that politicians are in a very strange way sometimes. I think they're victims of this too.

1:33.0

Arthur Brooks has different politics from my own.

1:36.0

He's from the American Right.

1:38.0

But when I read his latest book,

1:41.0

Love Your enemies, I found much that I agreed with. He believes that many politicians

1:47.0

now feel they have to follow the noisy and abuse of few, so who can improve our conversation? His answer might surprise you.

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