Hello, it was Simple Listeners. Up next, you'll hear the first episode of Dirty John, Season

2 The Podcast, a paid podcast from USA Network.

Dirty John Season 2 The Podcast is a series paid for by USA Network and produced by L.A.

Mime Studios in support of the television series Dirty John, the Betty Brotteric story.

This series tells the riveting and complex tale of the San Diego mother of four who murdered

her ex-husband and his new wife more than 30 years ago. The crime in its aftermath captivated

the nation then. Yet today, it still fascinates people.

To understand why the story endures the creative minds behind the series, executive producer,

writer and director, Alexandra Cunningham, an executive producer, Jessica Rhodes, explain

the importance of the cultural climate at the time, as well as how they approached this

complex case so many decades later.

Series creator, Alexandra Cunningham, reveals her earliest memories of the Betty Brotteric

story.

Well, I was first drawn to the story in a way that had nothing to do with writing because

I remember it happening when I was a teenager in 1989, pre the internet, it was international

news, which should show you how it sort of captured everyone's imagination because it

was a lot harder to be international news back then. I really just was fascinated by it

in the sense that this woman reminded me of the mothers of my friends, some of whom were

divorced and trying to imagine one of them sort of losing their mind in that way was

entertaining because I was a teenager and I had no sense of the world and no empathy,

no ability to put myself in anyone else's shoes, so it was just fun and crazy.

Over time, Alexandra Cunningham's perspective on the Betty Brotteric case shifted. She

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