Hi there, I'm Lale Arakoglu, and I'm really excited that today I'm talking to film director, Lulu Wang.

She's featured in Condé Ness Traveler's Women Who Traveler List, published today.

It's a celebration of the women who are shaping the way we travel in 2024 and beyond,

including television hosts, chefs, designers, activists, and filmmakers.

Lulu is the creator of expats, an Amazon original drama series starring Nicole Kidman.

It's shot on location in Hong Kong.

Don't you ever miss it?

Home?

I like our life here.

The help, the drivers, it makes everything easier.

Expat is an intersection of three American women and many other people around them who are all

affected by one event, one life-changing tragedy, that ripples throughout this community.

And expats looks at issues of privilege and power dynamics, race, class, the intersection of so many different identities and how this

tragedy affects all of them.

The word expatriate suggests moving to a foreign country for well-paid work and choosing to live in a bubble of an expat community. Think lounging on recliners in self-segregated country

clubs. But who gets to call themselves an expat? The differences in the word expat and the word

immigrant are very telling. I wanted to explore the thornyness and the prejudices and the biases

that we have. What's your relationship to the word expat? You know, I think it's, it's thorny in a way,

in the same way as being American abroad sometimes, you know. I think that there are connotations that come with it that invoke a sort of carelessness,

a kind of like non-integration or respect for the culture.

You were born in China and then you moved to the States.

So what was that journey for you?

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