Hello, everybody. Welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it,

how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee White. And will Terry cannot be here today because he is out on assignment.

He's in Alaska. He's in Alaska.

He's in Alaska ice fishing for a rare guppy.

That just rolled right off the tongue, didn't it?

Let's start over.

Be thinking.

A rare. A rare. The only fish.

A rare cup. You know, there's so many, there's trout.

That's perfect.

No, no, the guppy is literally the only fish that I could think of.

There was no plan B.

Okay.

Interesting.

So we will have him return and report on that whenever he's back.

See if he got that guppy.

Now, today we got a special guest.

We're interviewing Brandon Jeffords or having a conversation with him.

Brandon Jeffords, he's, uh, he's, uh, a, a animation film director.

That's his current job, but I've known him, uh, for years.

We met many, many years ago, work together.

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